# Victim, Villain, Valiant Hero: The Drama Triangle and Spiritual Trauma

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Podcast: [The Adoption Files](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-adoption-files-5610264)
Published: 2026-07-12T08:13:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ande-stanley/episodes/Victim--Villain--Valiant-Hero-The-Drama-Triangle-and-Spiritual-Trauma-e3lu98i
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## Resource

Please join Dani Joy and I as we continue our conversation about spiritual trauma and adoption. We are using the book Holy Hurt: Understanding Spiritual Trauma and the Process of Healing by Hillary L McBride, PhD as a scaffold for our conversation. We just started Chapter 5! How do the roles of victim, villain and rescuer play out in your life? What do they have to do with spiritual trauma? With adoption? Let us know what you think after you join us for the episode. Dani Joy can be found at: https://medium.com/@danijoy She loves to hear from people! https://hillarylmcbride.com/books/ https://mental-health-matters.org/2021/01/20/what-is-the-karpman-drama-triangle/ https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions, The host is not a lawyer, a therapist or an adoption professional Thank you for listening!

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