# This Feels Familiar: How leaving the system that harmed you can be hard to do. Plus more fun stuff about spiritual trauma!

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Podcast: [The Adoption Files](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-adoption-files-5610264)
Published: 2026-05-20T04:20:54+00:00
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## Resource

Please join me and mom Dani Joy as we wrap up chapter 3 in our discussion of spiritual trauma using the book Holy Hurt by Hilary L McBride PhD as a guide. In this episode we talk about how leaving can end up being more of the same, and why that happens. We also talk about characteristics of marginalized groups that intersect with our experiences with adoption. Dani can be found at: https://medium.com/@danijoy https://hillarylmcbride.com/holy-hurt-book/ https://thebloggess.com/ https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions The host is not a therapist, a lawyer or an adoption professional Thank you for listening!

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