# Fundamentally Bad: a Survivor's Universal Experience of Spiritual Trauma

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Podcast: [The Adoption Files](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-adoption-files-5610264)
Published: 2026-05-26T11:03:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ande-stanley/episodes/Fundamentally-Bad-a-Survivors-Universal-Experience-of-Spiritual-Trauma-e3jrkau
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## Resource

Please join Dani Joy and I as we continue our conversation about spiritual trauma using the book Holy Hurt by Hilary L McBride PhD as a guide as we explore how this has impacted us as a mother of loss to adoption and as an adopted person. Both Dani and I come from a Christian religious tradition, and we speak to our own lived experience as people deconstructing from religion and from the adoption narrative. Dani can be found at: https://medium.com/@danijoy https://hillarylmcbride.com/holy-hurt-book/ Mentioned on the podcast: https://candacecahill.com/book/ https://www.youtube.com/@maklelan https://www.youtube.com/@dataoverdogma If you are experiencing distress and need to talk, please reach out to one of the trained responders or to someone you feel safe with: https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions. The host is not a lawyer, a therapist or an adoption professional Thank you for listening! Please rate and review the show. We appreciate you.

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