# Millions of People Are Installing Malware on Their Partners’ Phones

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Podcast: [The 404 Media Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-404-media-podcast-6582713)
Published: 2026-05-25T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week Joseph speaks to Zack Whittaker, an editor at TechCrunch. Zack has been leading coverage into the spouseware or stalkerware industry. This is malware sold to ordinary people, which they then often install on their girlfriend’s or someone else’s phone. Zack talks about the crazy scope of this problem. Behind the stalkerware network spilling the private phone data of hundreds of thousands Spyzie stalkerware is spying on thousands of Android and iPhone users Stalkerware tag on TechCrunch This Week In Security Newsletter YouTube Version: https://youtu.be/BLb46310iLs Subscribe at 404media.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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