# Kate's Secret | "Honestly" with Writer Elan Mastai (504)

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Published: 2026-02-24T08:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we’re diving into Season 5, Episode 4: Honestly. This episode explores how patterns repeat across generations: from Kevin confronting childhood pressures and insecurities, to Randall stepping into mentorship and turning an uncomfortable moment into purpose, and Kate and Toby navigating the early steps of adoption. Plus, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling have fun in the studio chatting about sleep training, how their style has changed, and of course they also welcome 504 writer Elan Mastai to the podcast! Elan talks about how this show came into his life, what it was like moving from Canada to work on the show and how he dealt with that during Covid, and some of his most memorable and impactful moments writing for the show! That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. ------------------------- Support Our Sponsors: - Find Unreal products anywhere cravings hit, including at Whole Foods, Target, Costco, and other grocery stores Visit https://UnrealSnacks.com/TWU to get $2 off a bag of Unreal. Terms and conditions apply. - Share a little extra love this February and wrap yourself, or someone you care about, in comfort that truly feels special. Head to https://cozyearth.com and use our code TWU for up to 20% off. And if you get a post-purchase survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here. ------------------------- 🍋 About the Show: The stars of This Is Us, Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan, dive back into the world of the Pearsons, reliving each episode and all the life lessons that came with it. Together, they dig in and dig deep, have the tough conversations, bring in very special and familiar guests, share never-before-heard behind-the-scenes moments,…

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