# What really won the trillion-dollar Supreme Court case | Neal Kumar Katyal

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Podcast: [TED Talks Daily](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ted-talks-daily-980370)
Published: 2026-05-07T15:00:00+00:00
Episode link: http://go.ted.com/nealkumarkatyal
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In November 2025, Neal Kumar Katyal was asked to do what no US Supreme Court litigator had ever done: convince the justices to strike down a sitting president's signature initiative. After enlisting the help of four unlikely coaches — and one secret weapon he hasn't told anyone about until now — he walked into the courtroom ready for anything. What he discovered about winning and connecting might just change how you think about performing under pressure. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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