# How to escape the smartphone doom loop | Larz May, Elise Hu

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Podcast: [TED Talks Daily](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ted-talks-daily-980370)
Published: 2026-06-01T15:00:00+00:00
Episode link: http://go.ted.com/larissamay
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## Resource

Larz May has spent a decade building digital wellness programs for young people, and she's discovered something quietly radical: the smartphone doom loop of screen dependence and anxiety isn't inevitable, and joy (not restriction) is the way out. She makes the case for a different relationship with technology — starting with swapping screens for some analog fun. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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