# The counterintuitive secret of leadership | Jessica Kriegel

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Podcast: [TED Business](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ted-business-388139)
Published: 2026-07-13T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://audiocollective.ted.com/
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Control is an illusion — and the leaders who chase it are holding their teams back. Workplace culture expert Jessica Kriegel explores the tactic that leaders who want to achieve extraordinary results should try instead. After, Modupe challenges listeners to reflect on what's something they can surrender in their lives? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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