# E128: King Before Kingdom: John Bushman on Making Jesus the Center of Our Teaching Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/teaching-restored-6596228/e128-king-before-kingdom-john-bushman-on-making-jesus-the-center-of-our-teaching Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/teaching-restored-6596228/e128-king-before-kingdom-john-bushman-on-making-jesus-the-center-of-our-teaching.md Podcast: [Teaching Restored](https://stenobird.com/podcast/teaching-restored-6596228) Published: 2026-05-25T21:16:44+00:00 Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/teaching-restored/2826215 Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/282066/2826215/teaching-restored/2026_05_15_01_16_39_c1c8a15d-7f49-41c2-bba9-d0c9e3255e6c.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/teaching-restored-6596228/episodes/e128-king-before-kingdom-john-bushman-on-making-jesus-the-center-of-our-teaching Duration seconds: 4191 ## Resource Have you ever wondered if teaching the gospel sometimes gets tangled up in checklists instead of what matters most? In this conversation, we reflect on what it means to shed old mindsets and refocus on Jesus Christ at the heart of teaching, faith, and everyday church life. We share stories about our own experiences growing up in the church, recognize where legalism creeps into teaching, and dig into the difference between testimony and true conversion. Special guest Speaker C (John Bushman) joins us to talk about insights from his book, "King Before Kingdom," and how making Christ central changes everything—whether it’s how we teach, parent, or worship. We talk through: The impact of growing up with a checklist mentality and how it shapes faith What it means to be converted to Christ, not just the church or gospel principles How our language and traditions might unintentionally shift focus away from Jesus Practical ideas for making lessons, prayers, and even sacrament meetings more intentional and Christ-centered Personal stories of wrestling with trials, teaching youth, and finding relevance and meaning in everyday moments with the Savior Throughout, we keep coming back to one simple but powerful lesson: focusing on Jesus Christ brings clarity, energy, and real change—both in us and in those we teach. ______________ Subscribe for more free YouTube episodes: https://www.youtube.com/teachingrestored?sub_confirmation=1 Find all episodes: https://teachingrestored.com Ask a question for us to answer on our podcast: https://teachingrestored.com/contact-us/ Join us on: ✅ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/teachingrestored ✅ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/teachingrestored ✅ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@teachingrestored ✅ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@teachingrest… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/teaching-restored-6596228/episodes/e128-king-before-kingdom-john-bushman-on-making-jesus-the-center-of-our-teaching/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/teaching-restored-6596228/e128-king-before-kingdom-john-bushman-on-making-jesus-the-center-of-our-teaching.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.