# EXCLUSIVE: A Jon Mackenzie Masterclass: Arteta's Next Step

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Published: 2026-07-02T10:38:00+00:00
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## Resource

We welcome the brilliant Jon Mackenzie, writer and presenter at The Athletic FC. Full episode available on our Patreon or as a YouTube member. Rohan Jivan gets the chance to pick his brain on Pep Guardiola, the next step for Mikel Arteta, and the ideas behind Jon’s newly released book. Buy the book here: geni.us/TheSpectreOfPep Follow him on X: https://x.com/Jon_Mackenzie Welcome to TDK+. Part of The Different Knock, the home of Arsenal analysis. 📧 ⁠thedifferentknock@gmail.com⁠ 📧 ⁠Joe@intertalentgroup.com⁠ (Commercial enquiries) ❤️ Get ad free and exclusive content on YouTube Memberships (@DiffKnockPlus) or on Patreon: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/diffknock⁠ ☕️ Or for one time support, you can buy us a coffee: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/diffknock⁠ 🎥 TDK+ is produced by Alex Moneypenny | @alexmoneypenny 👨‍💻 Editing and executive production by MJ Anwar | mjavisual@gmail.com 🎧 Listen to TDK+ Episodes wherever you get your podcasts! 📲 Check us out on X, Instagram and TikTok @DiffKnock Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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