# The Lean Startup Author on What Ruins Good Companies

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Podcast: [TBPN](https://stenobird.com/podcast/tbpn-7037852)
Published: 2026-05-26T22:35:01+00:00
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## Resource

This is our full conversation with Eric Ries, recorded live on TBPN. We discuss why successful companies drift away from the principles that made them great, how short-term incentives and quarterly reporting can damage long-term value creation, why companies like Costco and Patagonia have built mission-first cultures that resist outside pressure, and how governance structures like public benefit corporations and long-term trusts could reshape the future of capitalism. Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com Follow TBPN: https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

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