# Starship Launch, World's Fair Retrospective, Sacks Spikes AI EO | Dan Shipper, James Rogers

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Podcast: [TBPN](https://stenobird.com/podcast/tbpn-7037852)
Published: 2026-05-22T20:31:30+00:00
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## Resource

(01:01) - Sacks Spikes AI EO (07:56) - America's IPO Market Wakes Up (17:47) - Starship Launch (28:28) - World's Fair Retrospective (45:46) - Dan Shipper, co-founder and CEO of Every, discusses the transformative impact of AI agents like Codex and Claude Code on knowledge work, highlighting how these tools have automated tasks in coding, writing, design, and customer service, leading to Every's growth from 4 to 30 employees since GPT-3. He emphasizes that while AI makes expert competence more accessible, it simultaneously increases the demand for human expertise to provide judgment and differentiation, as AI outputs often require human framing and evaluation to be truly valuable. Shipper also notes that AI enables small, generalist teams to accomplish tasks that previously required larger, specialized organizations, allowing for a more fulfilling and versatile work experience. (01:09:01) - James Rogers is the founder and CEO of Apeel Sciences, a company developing plant-based coatings that extend the shelf life of fresh produce and reduce food waste. He launched the company out of research funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, with a focus on improving global food distribution and sustainability through materials science. Follow TBPN: https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

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