# Pablo Torre Explains the Steve Ballmer & Kawhi Leonard Scandal

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Published: 2026-09-03T21:38:19+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1416

## Resource

This is our full interview with Pablo Torre. We discuss how he uncovered the alleged scheme to funnel $48 million to Kawhi Leonard, why Steve Ballmer risked circumventing the NBA salary cap, how money was routed through companies tied to the Clippers, why the NBA handed Ballmer a historic punishment, whether he could be forced to sell the team, what happens if he goes to war with the NBA, and more. TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.com Public - https://public.com Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Console - https://www.console.com CrowdStrike - https://www.crowdstrike.com Figma - https://www.figma.com MongoDB - https://www.mongodb.com NYSE - https://www.nyse.com Railway - https://railway.com Shopify - https://www.shopify.com/ Codex - http://openAI.com/codex Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com Follow TBPN: https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

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