# Phyllis Bennis with Tavis Smiley

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Podcast: [Tavis Smiley](https://stenobird.com/podcast/tavis-smiley-5000046)
Published: 2026-06-16T23:26:55+00:00
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Duration seconds: 994

## Resource

Phyllis Bennis, activist, author and program director of the New Internationalism Project at the Institute for Policy Studies, shares her thoughts on the tentative Iranian deal and tells why there is no bigger Trump lie right now than him saying the war is good for us or the world. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/tavis-smiley--6286410/support .

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