# Emmaia Gelman Joins Tavis Smiley

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Podcast: [Tavis Smiley](https://stenobird.com/podcast/tavis-smiley-5000046)
Published: 2026-07-01T19:25:19+00:00
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## Resource

Founding director of the Institute for the Critical Study of Zionism, Emmaia Gelman joins Tavis in studio to discuss her new book, The Anti-Defamation League and the Racial State, which examines the organization’s history and its role in American politics and society. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/tavis-smiley--6286410/support .

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