# Better Income?

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Podcast: [Talking Real Money - Investing Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/talking-real-money-investing-talk-201087)
Published: 2026-06-16T16:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1800

## Resource

Should retirees live off dividends and bond interest, or use a total return strategy? Don and Tom tackle one of the most persistent myths in retirement investing: that dividend-paying stocks create safer retirement income. They explain why dividends are not “free money,” how dividend-focused portfolios can create hidden risks, and why most academic research favors a diversified total return approach. The conversation explores dividend traps, covered-call income funds, sustainable withdrawal s...

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