# Is Gibbs vs. Bijan the New Barry vs. Emmitt? (with Ryan Mathews): Part 2

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Podcast: [Talking Grit: A Detroit Lions Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/talking-grit-a-detroit-lions-podcast-6914850)
Published: 2026-07-23T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Gibbs running back contract is discussed. Dan Pask asks a question about the defense that gets the guys discussing Kelvin Sheppard and what the expectations are.

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