# 86: Holacracy, if you can keep it

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Podcast: [Talking Businessly](https://stenobird.com/podcast/talking-businessly-6578514)
Published: 2026-02-18T18:08:28+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/ea514449
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Duration seconds: 2212

## Resource

John went on a Claude frenzy, and Kapow is nearly here. We reach out to bankers and learn a little bit about how their world works. John believes in benevolent dictatorships more than "flat organizations."

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