# We Can Survive. Can We Thrive? | Corey Nathan with Andrew Keen on Keen on America Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845/we-can-survive-can-we-thrive-corey-nathan-with-andrew-keen-on-keen-on-america Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845/we-can-survive-can-we-thrive-corey-nathan-with-andrew-keen-on-keen-on-america.md Podcast: [Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other](https://stenobird.com/podcast/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845) Published: 2026-04-03T09:34:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.politicsandreligion.us/e/keen-on-america/ Audio file: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/2s9r5d7i58cn6wqh/Keen-on-America_FeedDrop_Produced.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845/episodes/we-can-survive-can-we-thrive-corey-nathan-with-andrew-keen-on-keen-on-america Duration seconds: 2339 ## Resource We can survive. But can we thrive? That's a different question entirely. Corey Nathan joined Andrew Keen on Keen on America to talk about the state of civic discourse in America. Robert Mueller's death and the president's response to it is the jumping-off point, but the conversation goes much deeper: the exhausted majority, the horseshoe of extremism, storytelling as a bridge across difference, and what it takes to stay in hard conversations. This feed drop brings that interview to the TP&R audience. Calls to Action ✅ If this conversation resonates, consider sharing it with someone who believes connection across difference still matters. ✅ Subscribe to Corey’s Substack: coreysnathan.substack.com ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Subscribe to Talkin’ Politics & Religion Without Killin’ Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion Key Takeaways: Robert Mueller as a mirror. Mueller served under presidents of both parties, earned a Purple Heart, and devoted his education to public service. His death and the president's response to it shows what happens when tribalism does our thinking: one data point erases an entire life. The exhausted majority is real. The Hidden Tribes study from More in Common found that only 6-8% on either side qualify as genuine extremists. The other 85% are far more nuanced. They want to enjoy the barbecue and Thanksgiving dinner without it turning into a war. The conflict entrepreneurs don't represent most of us. It's a horseshoe, not a spectrum. The extreme ends have more in common with each other than either would admit. The incentive structure is identical: compete for attent… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845/episodes/we-can-survive-can-we-thrive-corey-nathan-with-andrew-keen-on-keen-on-america/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845/we-can-survive-can-we-thrive-corey-nathan-with-andrew-keen-on-keen-on-america.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.