# Caesar or Jackson? Jeffrey Rosen on the Constitution, the Founders, and What’s at Stake Today Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845/caesar-or-jackson-jeffrey-rosen-on-the-constitution-the-founders-and-what-s-at-stake-today Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845/caesar-or-jackson-jeffrey-rosen-on-the-constitution-the-founders-and-what-s-at-stake-today.md Podcast: [Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other](https://stenobird.com/podcast/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845) Published: 2026-05-04T09:34:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.politicsandreligion.us/e/jeffrey-rosen/ Audio file: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/s6hrbhq8zznj2xap/JeffreyRosen_Produced.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845/episodes/caesar-or-jackson-jeffrey-rosen-on-the-constitution-the-founders-and-what-s-at-stake-today Duration seconds: 4038 ## Resource “For Jefferson, Hamilton is not a hated enemy to be opposed or destroyed, but a respected adversary to be debated with. And that is the spirit we have to get back to today.” — Jeffrey Rosen Jeffrey Rosen is one of the most respected constitutional scholars in America — CEO Emeritus of the National Constitution Center, professor of law at George Washington University Law School, contributing editor at The Atlantic, and the author of nine books, including the New York Times bestsellers The Pursuit of Happiness and The Pursuit of Liberty. In this conversation, Rosen traces the Hamilton–Jefferson rivalry from the founding era to the Roberts Court, asks whether the current administration looks more like Caesar or Andrew Jackson, makes the case that deep reading may be the last best hope for democracy, and previews his forthcoming biography of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. It is the kind of conversation that reminds you what civic discourse, at its best, can actually look like. Calls to Action ✅ If this conversation resonates, consider sharing it with someone who believes connection across difference still matters. ✅ Subscribe to Corey’s Substack: coreysnathan.substack.com ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Subscribe to Talkin’ Politics & Religion Without Killin’ Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion Key Takeaways Caesar or Jackson? Rosen frames the central question about the current administration: is this a Caesar who subverts the separation of powers and rules by whim rather than law, or a Jackson-style populist who attacks elites and large institutions but ultimately operates within the constitutional system… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845/episodes/caesar-or-jackson-jeffrey-rosen-on-the-constitution-the-founders-and-what-s-at-stake-today/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/talkin-politics-religion-without-killin-each-other-3353845/caesar-or-jackson-jeffrey-rosen-on-the-constitution-the-founders-and-what-s-at-stake-today.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.