# Why Do We Fear Waymos More Than We Fear Bad Drivers

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Podcast: [Talk Cocktail](https://stenobird.com/podcast/talk-cocktail-15520)
Published: 2026-05-16T20:48:03+00:00
Episode link: https://jeffschechtman.substack.com/p/why-do-we-fear-waymos-more-than-we
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## Resource

On this California Sun Podcast I’m joined by William Riggs , a professor of engineering and management at the University of San Francisco and an expert on transportation innovation. He expalins how San Francisco — now ground zero for America’s autonomous vehicle future, with more than 1,000 Waymos on its streets — is exposing a strange contradiction: Society tolerates the deadly carnage caused by human drivers while holding self-driving cars to an impossible standard, even as the data increasingly suggests the technology will save lives. Get full access to Talk Cocktail Podcast at jeffschechtman.substack.com/subscribe

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