# Episode 93: S*** We Hate About Agile Pt 2: Story Points

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Published: 2026-03-10T15:13:46+00:00
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## Resource

🎙️ On this episode of the Take5IRL Podcast, all three co-hosts—@Mike, @Jeff, and @Pat continuing the series of S*** We Hate About Agile: Story Point Edition! Mike opens with a hot take: while he appreciates the theory behind story points, the real-world application often falls apart. In his words… SUCKS! He even floats the idea of replacing them entirely with hours. Jeff pushes the conversation deeper, pointing out that when teams obsess over the number, they miss the real purpose of story points—relative sizing. Pat rounds out the discussion by highlighting the difference between coaches who rigidly follow the book and those who customize approaches to fit the organization or team in front of them. The episode wraps with Mike offering a practical, usable approach to relative sizing that teams can actually apply. We stepped up on the soapbox for this one. Now it’s your turn—drop your war stories of story points gone wrong in the comments. And tell us: what other Agile concepts need a little validation (or a little venting)? #Take5IRL #AgilityIRL #StoryPoints #AgileCoaching #Scrum #AgileTransformation #RelativeSizing #AgileLeadership #BusinessAgility #LeanAgile #AgileCommunity

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