# Episode 85: What is an ASPC?

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Podcast: [take5IRL Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/take5irl-podcast-6586112)
Published: 2025-10-15T21:13:30+00:00
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## Resource

🎙️In this episode of the take5IRL podcast, hosts @Pat and @Mike dive into what it truly means to be an Advanced SAFe Practice Consultant (ASPC)—one of the highest distinctions in the SAFe community. Pat, one of the original 30 trainers worldwide to earn this certification, shares his perspective on how the ASPC designation represents years of hands-on experience, deep practical knowledge, and a proven ability to lead large-scale Agile transformations. Today, there are just over 100 ASPCs among thousands of SPCs around the globe. Together, Pat and Mike explore how this certification goes beyond theory, focusing on the organizational change aspect of Agile implementation, helping leaders understand transformation impact, ROI, and measurable business outcomes. It’s a conversation about experience, leadership, and the evolution of agility at scale. #Take5IRL #AgilityIRL #ASPC #SAFeFramework #ScaledAgile #AgileLeadership #AgileTransformation #LeanAgile #EnterpriseAgility #AgileConsulting #BusinessAgility #SPC #SAFeTraining

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