# Today, We Need Fighters (with Steve Phillips)

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Podcast: [System Catalysts](https://stenobird.com/podcast/system-catalysts-6336119)
Published: 2025-11-05T05:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Systems don’t change by accident. They change when we rethink where power lives, who holds it, and how we build toward something new together. Steve Phillips is the founder of Democracy in Color and author of Brown Is the New White and How We Win the Civil War . Today, he traces how America’s demographic and political shifts connect to the long arc of the civil rights movement and what it really takes to build a multiracial democracy. He also tells us how to fund people, build trust, and move money in ways that drive real change. Resources mentioned: Documentary Power, Not Persuasion: The Susan Sandler Legacy: https://www.susansandlerfilm.org/ Steve’s podcast Democracy in Color: https://democracyincolor.com/podcast Steve’s Books: https://www.stevephillips.com/books If you aspire to be a System Catalyst and need resources to help you on your journey, subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.systemcatalysts.com/newsletter Learn more about our mission and our partners, visit systemcatalysts.com This podcast is produced by Hueman Group Media . Views and opinions expressed during the podcast are those of the individuals expressing them and do not necessarily reflect those of System Catalysts or Hueman Group Media Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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