# Philanthropy Isn’t Risky — It’s Misunderstood (with Rachel Markham and Cedric Dageville)

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Published: 2025-10-14T04:59:56+00:00
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## Resource

In our first episode of Season 4, English Sall sits down with Rachel Markham and Cedric Dageville, husband and wife, scuba divers, and principals at the Patchwork Collective, a family foundation founded in 2020.  Rachel and Cedric share their trust-based approach at the Patchwork Collective, and why they reject the idea of “risk” in philanthropy.  Learn more about The Patchwork Collective: https://www.thepatchworkcollective.org If you aspire to be a System Catalyst and need resources to help you on your journey, subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.systemcatalysts.com/newsletter Learn more about our mission and our partners, visit https://www.systemcatalysts.com This podcast is produced by Hueman Group Media . Views and opinions expressed during the podcast are those of the individuals expressing them and do not necessarily reflect those of System Catalysts or Hueman Group Media. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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