# Are we heading back to war? | John Mearsheimer & Doug Bandow

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Podcast: [Switzerland with Tom Switzer](https://stenobird.com/podcast/switzerland-with-tom-switzer-7650433)
Published: 2026-06-28T23:54:47+00:00
Episode link: https://tomswitzer.podbean.com/e/are-we-heading-back-to-war-john-mearsheimer-doug-bandow/
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No one expected diplomacy to proceed without setbacks. But there was hope that the Memorandum of Understanding signed by the United States and Iran in late June, vague though it was, would create enough political space to allow commercial shipping to resume through the Strait of Hormuz. The events of the past few days have been a reminder of just how fragile that ceasefire remains. What kind of challenge does this pose to efforts to turn that initial memorandum into a more durable peace agreement? To what extent has the U.S. foreign policy establishment been, to coin a neoconservative phrase, mugged by reality? Will the Iran debacle encourage Washington policy elites to place less emphasis on not just the Persian Gulf but also Europe and Asia? Today’s guests are John Mearsheimer from the University of Chicago and Doug Bandow from the Cato Institute, the leading libertarian think tank in Washington.

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