# Ep 86: Hot Commodities: Chocolate & Sustainability (ft. Tony's Chocolonely)

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Published: 2025-04-04T08:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://sustainabilitydefined.libsyn.com/hot-commodities-chocolate-sustainability
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Duration seconds: 4430

## Resource

Welcome to the first episode of Hot Commodities: Chocolate & Sustainability, a new series from Sustainability Defined! Meet your new hosts, Cecilia and Nethra, as they dive into the environmental and social challenges within the chocolate supply chain. From cacao farming to the final product, they break down the key players, power imbalances, and pressing issues like deforestation, child labor, and climate change. This episode explores the role of women in cacao production, the struggles of smallholder farmers against large corporations, and potential solutions such as agroforestry and ethical sourcing. Cecilia and Nethra aim to unpack the complexities of this "wicked problem" and empower listeners to make more informed choices. You'll also hear from agricultural economist and Former World Cacao President William Guyton, followed by insights from Tony's Chocolonely. Their interviews highlight the need for collaboration, fair trade certifications, and conscious consumer action to build a more sustainable and equitable chocolate industry. Tune in to uncover the bittersweet truth behind your favorite treat!

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