# Episode 288: Uni students and OSS with Jeff Young & Daniel Shown

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Podcast: [Sustain](https://stenobird.com/podcast/sustain-796832)
Published: 2026-05-15T14:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcast.sustainoss.org/288
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## Resource

Guest Jeff Young | Daniel Shown Panelists Richard Littauer | Eriol Fox Show Notes In this episode of Sustain, Richard Littauer and Eriol Fox talk with Jeff Young from Georgia Tech and Daniel Shown from Saint Louis University (SLU) about how academic OSPOs are bringing students into open source in meaningful, sustainable ways. They discuss experiential learning, research software engineering, near-peer mentorship, student motivation, maintainer burnout, and how universities can help students build real-world skills while strengthening open source communities. Press download now! [00:01:46] Jeff describes Georgia Tech’s OSPO focus. [00:03:49] Daniel explains SLU’s experiential learning model. [00:05:29] Daniel and Jeff share how many students they’re working with in their programs. [00:06:13] Jeff talks about how students engage with open source and Daniel describes meeting students and the wide range of student experience levels. [00:09:33] They discuss what the students bring to the sustainability of open source software and the value of seeing open source as a community effort. [00:13:05] Richard asks how academic programs connect students with maintainers when many open source maintainers are already overwhelmed. Daniel explains how SLU uses internal tech leads as near-peer mentors and describes training student maintainers. [00:15:26] Daniel describes training student maintainers. [00:16:45] Jeff discusses Georgia Tech’s growing mentor model. [00:18:55] Eriol asks the guests what their “dream programs” would be if they had more resources. [00:23:44] Richard asks how to excite universities, funders, administrators, teachers, students, and other stakeholders about open source education. They discuss open source, AI, student excitement, grounded storytelling, and real…

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