# 920: In Case You Missed It in August 2025

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Podcast: [Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn](https://stenobird.com/podcast/super-data-science)
Published: 2025-09-05T11:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This month’s episode of In Case You Missed It gives us reasons to be cautiously optimistic about the future of large language models (LLMs), with guests discussing what to do about recent reports that found AI agents blackmailed human users when threatened, the importance of post-training LLMs, and the training we have available for data and AI engineers to create robust, secure, and useful AI. Jon Krohn includes clips from his interviews with Akshay Agrawal (Episode 911), Julien Launay (Episode 913), Michelle Yi (Episode 915), and Kirill Eremenko (Episode 917). Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/920⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

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