# 919: Hopes and Fears of AGI, with All-Time Bestselling ML Author Aurélien Géron

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Published: 2025-09-02T11:00:00+00:00
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PyTorch, AGI, and the future of alignment research: Aurélien Géron joins Jon Krohn in this live interview to talk about the fourth edition of his bestselling Hands-On Machine Learning as well as what superintelligence makes him hopeful for, as well as what concerns him about machines surpassing human intelligence. This episode is brought to you by Gurobi and by the Dell AI Factory with NVIDIA⁠ Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/919⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:04) Why Aurélien wrote Hands-On Machine Learning (20:54) How Aurélien came to decide on material for the new edition (28:53) Aurélien’s predictions for AGI (51:21) How to support alignment research (1:13:42) Does superintelligence mean super-capability

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