# SLP 350: PDA & Supporting the Drive for Autonomy with Expert Guests Laura Kerby & Eliza Flicker

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Podcast: [Sue Larkey Podcast - Autism (ASD), ADHD, ODD and PDA education](https://stenobird.com/podcast/sue-larkey-podcast-autism-asd-adhd-odd-and-pda-education-13019)
Published: 2026-06-29T04:17:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1822

## Resource

Join Sue for an upcoming Live Virtual Workshop where you will learn from Sue practical tips & strategies to make a difference. ✅ PDA Definition: Drive for autonomy, not pathological demand avoidance. ✅ Demand Types: Internal and external demands create cumulative pressure. ✅ Boiling Kettle: Anxiety builds quietly, small triggers cause big crises. ✅ Crisis Recovery: Children need time and space after overwhelm. ✅ School Environment: Flexible schools with strong relationships make huge difference. ✅ Safe Relationships: Authentic connections reduce anxiety and increase coping. ✅ Perfectionism: Self-sabotage maintains autonomy when fear of failure exists. Read more about this podcast in the show notes found via the link below suelarkey.com.au/pathological-demand-avoidance-in-the-classroom Join the Facebook group specifically for this podcast www.facebook.com/groups/suelarkeypodcastcommunity/ Join my Neurodiversity Network suelarkey.com.au/neurodiversity-network/ Follow my Instagram account for regular tips www.instagram.com/sue.larkey/ To learn more about teaching or understanding ASD, please visit my website below. elearning.suelarkey.com.au

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