# Jen Wagner – Creative Market, Self-Worth, and Font Licensing – Ep41 Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/students-of-design-6919521/jen-wagner-creative-market-self-worth-and-font-licensing-ep41 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/students-of-design-6919521/jen-wagner-creative-market-self-worth-and-font-licensing-ep41.md Podcast: [Students of Design](https://stenobird.com/podcast/students-of-design-6919521) Published: 2025-11-28T22:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://studentsofdesign.simplecast.com/episodes/jen-wagner-Cu0BSEoe Audio file: https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/5954491d-d744-4a5d-915b-2920e8739545/episodes/85779860-b302-4056-9e34-c73a51be0eda/audio/3f96b887-c9f3-46ea-b054-46d0332b79bc/default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&feed=zkHtwz13 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/students-of-design-6919521/episodes/jen-wagner-creative-market-self-worth-and-font-licensing-ep41 Duration seconds: 3856 ## Resource Jen is a Nashville-based independent type designer and resource creator for creative business owners. You might be familiar with some of her best-selling typefaces, like Perfectly Nineties, Editor's Note, and Founder's Hand. However, long before her formal education in type design from Type@Cooper, Jen got her start on Creative Market. She created and uploaded font after font, even though she didn't know the rules and guidelines of type design. The best part is IT WORKED, because people bought and used her fonts, and that was enough to inspire her to keep doing it. Surprisingly, Jen only wanted to make enough money to pay her water bill and eat at Chipotle once a week. But now, brands like Sprouts, Victoria's Secret, Kohl's, Bed Bath & Beyond, and Sweetgreen are using her typefaces. She's come a long way from wanting to be an orthopedic surgeon in Colorado; her love for type design has gone from hobby to career, and she's LITERALLY sold a digital product every single day of this year. Tune in for a talk about getting started on Creative Market, her struggles with tying her self-worth to her income, and finding the balance between making type that's accessible for everyone and becoming a world-class type foundry. Follow Jen on Instagram @jenwagnertype, and explore her typefaces on her website jenwagner.co. If you sign up for her email list, you'll get 20% off your first order! ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/students-of-design-6919521/episodes/jen-wagner-creative-market-self-worth-and-font-licensing-ep41/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/students-of-design-6919521/jen-wagner-creative-market-self-worth-and-font-licensing-ep41.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.