# Know When To Hold 'em

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Podcast: [Straight Talking Sustainability](https://stenobird.com/podcast/straight-talking-sustainability-7096932)
Published: 2026-04-05T23:15:00+00:00
Episode link: https://straight-talking-sustai.captivate.fm
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## Resource

Welcome to this week's episode of Straight Talking Sustainability! Host Emma Burlow takes inspiration from "The Gambler" song to explore when to push, pause, pivot, or fold your sustainability efforts within your business, particularly when sustainability is being deprioritised. Key Topics Covered Sustainability's Changing Environment The landscape for sustainability in business has shifted dramatically, with economic, political, and leadership pressures reshaping priorities. warns that sticking to outdated strategies risks "extinction" and stresses the importance of adapting to survive ( 04:37 ). Survival of the Fittest Drawing on the analogy from a previous episode, reminds listeners that survival isn't about being the strongest, but best fitting the environment as it changes ( 03:33 ). The ability to evolve, morph, and pause is emphasized as vital. Knowing When to Hold Your Cards Sustainability professionals often feel compelled to defend their initiatives relentlessly. The episode argues that sometimes, holding your cards—pausing a project or delaying an initiative—is actually the winning move ( 06:30 ). Pushing sustainability when it's unpopular can lead to burnout and resistance. Building Trust and Embedding Sustainability This period of pause is reframed as an opportunity to build trust within an organization. For stepping out of the "sustainability silo," truly listening to colleagues, and aligning with their current business needs ( 09:03 ). This foundational work makes sustainability more likely to succeed when momentum swings back. Consistency vs. Passion The episode stresses that consistency, reliability, and adaptability trump intense passion. Long-term influence is built by showing up, being practical, and creating value, not just by pushing sustainabilit…

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