# On A Relational Approach to Disorganizing with Kate Lockwood Harris | Ep. 147

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Published: 2025-10-01T04:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3984

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What does it look like to connect everyday interactions to broader social dynamics? To use our knowledge of interpersonal communication to create the kinds of organizations, communities, and systems we want to make? ... Today, Abbie and Kate talk about a relational approach to disorganizing systemic violence in organizations, exploring themes from Kate’s new book Transforming Trauma to discuss different ways of knowing (and not knowing) in our bodies, minds, and relationships; flexibility and...

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