# The fear of colour: chromophobia Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/stories-in-colour-7344920/the-fear-of-colour-chromophobia Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/stories-in-colour-7344920/the-fear-of-colour-chromophobia.md Podcast: [Stories in Colour](https://stenobird.com/podcast/stories-in-colour-7344920) Published: 2025-06-24T23:15:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/podcast Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/4f234fb9-4e88-47d2-b492-fd96b0bebafe.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/stories-in-colour-7344920/episodes/the-fear-of-colour-chromophobia Duration seconds: 2720 ## Resource Where did all the colour go? And how might Western culture have feared it, or deemed it superficial, in art and philosophy? We celebrate the 25th anniversary of seminal book ‘Chromophobia’ with its author David Batchelor, who reflects on these ideas a quarter of a century on. David speaks to National Gallery host Beks Leary about ideas of colour from philosopher Plato and artist Paul Cezanne, to the film ‘The Wizard of Oz’, photojournalist Don McCullin and pop artist Andy Warhol. They also ask the pressing question: ‘is beige a passive aggressive colour?’ David Batchelor is an artist and writer based in London, who, for thirty years, has been concerned with our experience of colour within the modern urban environment, and with historical conceptions of colour within Western culture. His work comprises sculpture, installation, drawing, painting, photography and animation. ----- Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/bOrd81eklxM You can email us with any questions via podcast@nationalgallery.org.uk Find out more about the podcast on our website: www.nationalgallery.org.uk/podcast ----- To take our short survey about the podcast please visit: https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/podcast ----- Artworks mentioned: Paul Cezanne, ‘Hillside in Provence’, about 1890-2. The National Gallery, London https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/paul-cezanne-hillside-in-provence Jean-Auguste-Dominique Ingres, ‘Madame Moitessier’, 1856. The National Gallery, London https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/jean-auguste-dominique-ingres-madame-moitessier Pierre-Auguste Renoir, ‘The Skiff (La Yole)’, 1875. The National Gallery, London https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/pierre-auguste-renoir-the-skiff-la-yole Claude Monet, ‘The Gare St-Lazare', 1877. The Nationa… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/stories-in-colour-7344920/episodes/the-fear-of-colour-chromophobia/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/stories-in-colour-7344920/the-fear-of-colour-chromophobia.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.