# Bondi, Birthright & Conversion Therapy (with Dahlia Lithwick)

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Published: 2026-04-07T21:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

On this week’s Insider podcast, Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance are joined by Dahlia Lithwick, senior editor at Slate and host of the Amicus podcast. In a free excerpt from the episode, they break down the Supreme Court’s recent 8–1 decision in favor of a licensed therapist who challenged a Colorado law banning conversion therapy for minors. In the full episode, Preet, Joyce, and Dahlia make sense of: – President Trump’s firing of Attorney General Pam Bondi; and – Supreme Court oral arguments in a case challenging President Trump’s effort to restrict birthright citizenship. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it’s critical to stay tuned. To join a community of reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider or staytuned.substack.com/subscribe. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Executive Producer: Tamara Sepper; Supervising Producer: Jake Kaplan; Associate Producer: Claudia Hernández; Senior Audio Producer: Matthew Billy; CAFE Team: Celine Rohr, Nat Weiner, Jennifer Indig, and Liana Greenway. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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