# How This Broker Built 200 Agents WITHOUT Traditional Recruiting | Mark Perkins, CEO of Pivot Realty

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Podcast: [Stay Paid Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/stay-paid-podcast-458875)
Published: 2026-01-12T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

"If you're going to build people, you must care more about their outcome than yours." Mark Perkins—founder of Pivot Realty Group—shares the truth most brokerages avoid: the real estate industry is broken, and most agents fail because no one tells them what the job actually requires. Mark explains how he built a 200-agent brokerage without traditional recruiting and why culture, leadership, and service—not tech or branding—are the true drivers of growth. Learn about: How he built a 200-agent independent brokerage from scratch Emphasizing long-term strategy over short-term profit What's broken in real estate & why agents fail Focusing on the "middle 60%" who can succeed with the right mentorship Accountability, standards, and clarity matter more than perks Why brokerages should develop agents—not use them Recruiting should come from value, not persuasion 🔗 Connect with the Pivot Realty team: https://www.pivotrealty.com/ 🎧 Listen to Mark's podcast: https://www.thenecessaryentrepreneur.com/

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