# Can middle powers build a new world order as PM Carney says?

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Podcast: [State of Play](https://stenobird.com/podcast/state-of-play-7362368)
Published: 2026-01-29T05:00:00+00:00
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At Davos, the Canadian prime minister argued that the rules based system is fading and middle powers must work together to build a new world order. Chris Hernandez-Roy and Kristi Govella join Will to discuss whether or not key U.S. allies like Canada and Japan could do this, what it might look like, and what the risks are. Mark Carney, "Davos 2026: Special address by Mark Carney, Prime Minister of Canada," January 20, 2026. Kristi Govella, "Japan’s Response to Trump 2.0: Sustaining U.S. Ties, Strengthening International Partnerships," CSIS, October 6, 2025. Christopher Hernandez-Roy, Juliana Rubio, Jessie Hu, and Sam Smith, "President Trump’s Latin America Policy: Short-Term Gains, Long-Term Risks," CSIS, October 6, 2025.

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