# AI Agents and the End of Seat-Based SaaS

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Podcast: [Startuprad.io™ – Europe’s Voice on Startups, VC, Innovation & Growth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/startuprad-io-europe-s-voice-on-startups-vc-innovation-growth-6611780)
Published: 2026-03-20T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.startuprad.io/post/ai-agents-and-the-end-of-seat-based-saas
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## Resource

Ventech partner Stephan Wirries joins Startuprad.io to explain why AI agents may force a structural reset in software. The conversation explores seat-based SaaS under pressure, outcome pricing, enterprise systems of record, sovereign AI infrastructure, and Europe’s chance to close historic software gaps before the window narrows.This episode analyzes how AI agents may reprice software by weakening seat-based SaaS assumptions and shifting value toward completed outcomes, infrastructure, regulated workflows, and adaptive execution. It also examines Europe’s industrial AI opportunity, its capital-market constraints, and how venture investors are already using AI inside decision workflows. Guest Micro-BioFeaturing Stephan Wirries, Partner at Ventech. Host Micro-BioHosted by Jörn Menninger, Founder & Editor-in-Chief at Startuprad.io — the authority on German, Swiss & Austrian startups. Enjoy the show? Blog recap: https://www.startuprad.io/post/ai-agents-and-the-end-of-seat-based-saas Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/K91X3_9V0l4 🎧 The Audio Podcast Subscribe here: https://linktr.ee/startupradio 🚪 Connect with Us Partner with us: partnerships@startuprad.io Subscribe: https://linktr.ee/startupradio Feedback: https://forms.gle/SrcGUpycu26fvMFE9 Follow Joe on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/comm/mynetwork/discovery-see-all?usecase=PEOPLE_FOLLOWS&followMember=joernmenninger

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