# „Wir wollen das kleinste AI-Lab bauen, das es je gab" – Voice AI Made in Europe mit Viktor Presber & Kajo Kratzenstein (KugelAudio)

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Podcast: [Startup Insider](https://stenobird.com/podcast/startup-insider-6744721)
Published: 2026-07-16T11:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://startup-insider.com/alle-podcast-folgen/
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## Resource

KugelAudio-Gründer Viktor Presber & Kajo Kratzenstein über On-Premise Voice AI, Y-Combinator-Learnings und warum ein Drei-Personen-Team gegen ElevenLabs bestehen will.

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