# "It’s Not Complex, but It’s Hard": Helping Students Find Their Purpose

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Podcast: [Standing Tall: Voices in Leadership](https://stenobird.com/podcast/standing-tall-voices-in-leadership-7121152)
Published: 2026-05-04T09:30:00+00:00
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Host Randy Lindquist sits down with Paul Kurdziel, a 30-year veteran of Muskegon Public Schools, to explore his approach to leadership and mentorship. The conversation dives into the power of "neighborliness," leading with love, and the essential work of helping alternative education students find their purpose through curiosity and dreaming.

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