# How PBIS Solves the Problems Keeping You Up at Night

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Podcast: [Standing Tall: Voices in Leadership](https://stenobird.com/podcast/standing-tall-voices-in-leadership-7121152)
Published: 2026-01-12T10:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Standing Tall, host Randy Lindquist sits down with Kelly Perales, Co-Director of the Midwest PBIS Network, to discuss the evolution of school support systems. Kelly explains why the Interconnected Systems Framework (ISF) is the "missing link" for schools struggling to manage rising mental health needs on their own. From disaggregating data to identify hidden equity gaps to building authentic, "warts and all" partnerships with community agencies, this conversation provides a blueprint for any leader looking to build a more resilient and inclusive school culture.

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