# Beyond the Spreadsheet | Stories Over Metrics

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Podcast: [Standing Tall: Voices in Leadership](https://stenobird.com/podcast/standing-tall-voices-in-leadership-7121152)
Published: 2025-12-15T10:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, host Randy Lindquist sits down with Tyler Smies, CEO of First Tee West Michigan, to discuss how the organization leverages the game of golf to build character and life skills in youth. Smies shares valuable insights for educational leaders, including how to balance ambitious growth with staff sustainability and why personal stories of impact resonate more deeply than data.

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