# The Ultimate Intelligence Fiasco

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Podcast: [SpyTalk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/spytalk-3670630)
Published: 2026-05-15T20:00:23+00:00
Episode link: https://mswmedia.com/show/spytalk/
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## Resource

Ex-CIA operative Jerry Watson and journalist Bob Drogin tell the disastrous story of Curveball and its relevance to today’s war against Iran. The US invaded Iraq after the based on bogus intel. Much of that intel was fabricated by Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi an Iraqi defector codenamed "Curveball." More from our guests: Bob Drogin | Los Angeles Times A CIA Officer Returns to Iraq and Uncovers Embarrassing Details of the Spy Agency’s WMD Debacle Curveball Jerry Watson | https://www.criticalanswers.net/ Follow Michael Isikoff on Twitter | https://x.com/isikoff Follow Karen Greenberg on Twitter | https://x.com/KarenGreenberg3 Follow Jeff Stein on Twitter | https://x.com/SpyTalker Follow SpyTalk on Twitter | https://x.com/talk_spy Subscribe to SpyTalk on Substack | https://www.spytalk.co/ Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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