# Ben Solak contextualizes Caleb Williams' 2025 & sees good things in 2026 (Hour 3)

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Podcast: [Spiegel & Holmes Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/spiegel-holmes-show-827866)
Published: 2026-05-27T22:03:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2614

## Resource

In the final hour, Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes listened and reacted to ESPN writer Ben Solak explain why he's so optimistic about Bears quarterback Caleb Williams' outlook in 2026. After that, they discussed how the Oklahoma City Thunder are becoming the villain in the NBA.

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