# Noma and Redzepi: A Shocking Tale of Abuse

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Podcast: [Special Sauce with Ed Levine](https://stenobird.com/podcast/special-sauce-with-ed-levine-496852)
Published: 2026-03-20T19:00:00+00:00
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According The New York Times , Noma chef and co-owner René Redzepi physically and verbally abused more than thirty of his kitchen staff between 2010 and 2017. To find out what that means, I sat down with longtime restaurant critic Bill Addison of The Los Angeles Times , and best selling author and youtuber, Kenji Lopez-Alt . Kenji worked in many serious restaurant kitchens in Boston for a number of years after graduating from college, before opening his own restaurant Wursthall in San Mateo, California. Can fine-dining restaurant kitchens become kinder and gentler places? What should happen to Redzepi? We mull over these questions and more on this episode of Special Sauce . Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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