# 219: Breaking the models with Dr. Merrison

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Podcast: [Spacepod](https://stenobird.com/podcast/spacepod-174342)
Published: 2024-04-22T12:27:00+00:00
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## Resource

Dr. Jon Merrison talks about the Mars Simulation Laboratory. Here, scientists study what happens in low temperature, low pressure, windy environments. He says visiting scientists often "come to our lab with some idea based on the conventional model and go away with data which makes no sense to them."

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