# Inside the Alibaba Boardroom: Jack Ma, Masa Son, Joe Tsai & Jackie Reses

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Published: 2026-05-28T12:02:33+00:00
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## Resource

Jackie Reses has quietly done what almost no one in finance has pulled off — she's been a Goldman Sachs banker, a private equity partner at Apax, Yahoo's Chief Development Officer, Executive Chairman of Square Financial Services, a board member at Alibaba, Affirm, and Nubank, and now the founder and CEO of Lead Bank, the $1.5B fintech infrastructure company quietly powering Stripe, Ramp, Walmart, Affirm, Revolut, and over 100 crypto companies. In this episode, Jackie sits down with Molly to share the untold stories behind her improbable career — from sitting in Alibaba board meetings with Jack Ma, Joe Tsai, and Masa Son, to brokering one of the largest value-recovery deals in corporate history for Yahoo, to running Square Capital after a 72-hour hackweek project. She also gets candid about the hype around "de-banking," what it's really like inside the White House (her brother is VP JD Vance's Chief of Staff), how she built Lead Bank to $280M in revenue with zero sales team, and why the future of financial infrastructure is programmable, on-chain, and AI-native. Whether you're a founder, operator, investor, or just curious about how the most powerful in American fintech actually work behind the scenes — this conversation is a masterclass. Jacqueline Reses: https://x.com/jackiereses Molly O’Shea: https://x.com/MollySOShea Sourcery: ⁠ https://x.com/sourceryy 𝐄𝐏𝐈𝐒𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐋𝐈𝐍𝐊𝐒 YouTube: https://youtu.be/0rwmXUnn7Tc 𝐒𝐏𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐎𝐑𝐒 • Brex —The modern finance platform, combining the world’s smartest corporate card with integrated expense management, banking, bill pay, & travel. https://brex.com/sourcery • Turing —Turing delivers top-tier talent, data, and tools to help AI labs improve model performance—and enables enterprises to turn those models into powerful, production-…

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