# Inside the next industrial revolution

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Podcast: [Sound Policy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/sound-policy-7800950)
Published: 2026-01-20T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fm-podcast74/episodes/Inside-the-next-industrial-revolution-e3cibji
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## Resource

The way our industries work is changing quickly. Really quickly. So quickly that some people have declared that we are in a new industrial revolution, called Industry 4.0. Here at FM, part of our job is preparing our clients for this changing landscape. As new technologies arrive, we research the steps industries can take to reduce the risks these systems might bring. So on this episode of Sound Policy, we sat down with the person helping lead that research at FM. Dr. Roland Schaefer is research director for future of industry, based in Luxembourg. More resources: FM Breaks Ground on State-of-the-Art Science and Technology Centre | FM (US) FM and LIST Launch Research Partnership to Tackle Climate and Cyber Risks | FM (US) Confronting the resilience challenge with science and research

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