# Season 5 Ep 1 | Matt Davis | What does Mount Rushmore tell us about America?

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Podcast: [Some Things Considered with Sean Murphy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/some-things-considered-with-sean-murphy-7026430)
Published: 2025-12-09T13:00:00+00:00
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Some Things Considered returns with our fifth season, and we could not be more excited. Episode One features Matthew Davis, with whom I speak about his new book Biography of a Mountain , an in-depth examination of Mt. Rushmore as both a monument and a metaphor for America. Drawing on years of research and personal engagement with the Black Hills, Davis unpacks the layered histories, mythologies, and political tensions embedded in this iconic site. We cover a ton of ground, and highlights include: * Why Mt. Rushmore: How Davis realized this was the book he needed to write — and why the mountain mirrors the American story. * Many Americas: Mt. Rushmore as a metaphor for the evolving, often conflicting visions of what “America” means. * Native history: The mountain’s sacred role long before white settlement, and how Indigenous perspectives were erased or overwritten. * Power & narrative: Who tells America’s story? Who benefits? Why monuments become battlegrounds. * Gutzon Borglum: The ambition, ego, and controversy surrounding the monument’s creator — including his troubling political ties. * Author in the narrative: Why Davis chose to include his own journey, and how personal context strengthens historical storytelling. * The paradox of monuments: How the same statue symbolizes pride to some and oppression to others — and what that reveals about American identity. * Relevance in 2025: How Davis’s research unexpectedly speaks to today’s political climate and the weaponization of history. * Trump, Reagan, and symbolism: The modern fight over commemoration, legacy, and political mythmaking. * What the mountain teaches us: Reflections on history, country, culture, and narrative itself. It’s always a pleasure to speak with Matt, whom I consider a good friend, colleague, and s…

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